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Syzygies 9 hours ago [-]
Pub tourism is one of my favorite ways to spend a day in London. The pub "density" isn't all it's cracked up to be. To be able to make it to the next pub for a bathroom (and to preserve my ability to walk) I've found half pints to be ideal. Ideally, accompanied here and there by pub food.
Bar staff don't universally view half pint orders with respect.
stevenfeldman 11 hours ago [-]
Hi
I built the pub density map.
I think the data from FHRS is more comprehensive than on OSM as it covers bars, clubs etc. If you have an alcohol license you appear in the FHRS data
I know there have been some access issues today, I think it is down to Cloudflare changing its bot protection.
The app is to compare pub density in your area, it doesn't have a search facility - there are loads of alternatives to search for a pub.
northernsausage 16 hours ago [-]
Its only 9am in the UK and the demand means its has already serving a 520.
wrboyce 14 hours ago [-]
Hmm, this dataset is pretty poor. There are at least 3 pubs near me that are missing.
NoboruWataya 13 hours ago [-]
Why use FHRS as the source rather than OSM? OSM isn't perfect either but for my area at least it seems a lot more comprehensive.
rob74 13 hours ago [-]
> UK Pub Density by Parliamentary Constituency
Technically, this is only the pub density in Great Britain - the UK is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", and Northern Ireland is not covered, so...
toolslive 15 hours ago [-]
OK, I think this will be close to an all time record:
Leopoldsburg (Belgium, 14k inhabitants) had more than 150 pubs in the 1980s.
flir 15 hours ago [-]
I make that 933:1? Portsmouth (Navy/dockyard town) had 115:1 in the 1860s. (822 pubs and beerhouses against a population of 95k). There was a row of five pubs right outside the dockyard gate.
I see Leopoldsburg had a large military camp nearby. Same story?
falcor84 14 hours ago [-]
You're off by a factor of 10: 14k/150 is ~93 residents per pub.
flir 10 hours ago [-]
Thanks. Early morning posting. Bet I read "140k".
kaelyx 14 hours ago [-]
Im surprised Newcastle upon Tyne isn't higher on this map. I guess its Density of housing near the center dilutes the ratio
toolslive 15 hours ago [-]
yup. soldiers in dire need of a drink
martinclayton 12 hours ago [-]
Dataset does seem sketchy. My village has two pubs, neither appear. Two non-pub licensed locations (social club, stately home) do appear. The dot for the pub in the next village is off by about 100m.
jrflo 18 hours ago [-]
Really surprising that Inverness and Skye have only 16 pubs considering how much tourism the area has. I felt like it wasn't lacking for pubs but maybe I saw all 16...
wetbaby 17 hours ago [-]
A good third of the pubs are missing in my town tbh and they're definitely still open.
CiaranMcNulty 17 hours ago [-]
It looks like the data is from OpenStreetMap so maybe you could add them if they’re missing there?
n4r9 16 hours ago [-]
If you click the question mark it has:
> Pub data is sourced from the Food Hygiene Rating Service (FHRS) via GetTheData Open Pubs
Ah, interesting. Searching the dataset for my local area, this seems to include some restaurants, but omits hotels entirely. That's skewing the numbers downward tremendously.
14 hours ago [-]
2b3a51 15 hours ago [-]
Which explains why Spearmint Rhino is listed in Birmingham (hint: you might get a surprise popping in that establishment for a quick pint).
So nice interface and all but some data curation will be needed - perhaps on a crowd sourced basis? Click and add comment &c.
flir 14 hours ago [-]
I thought about doing something similar pre-Covid. There are commercial datasets that are more complete (Local Data Company was the one I targeted when I was researching), but... well... £000's a quarter.
The project would have had to cover its costs, so the idea went to the great backlog in the sky.
mojo74 16 hours ago [-]
I would argue it's your civic duty :)
BoxOfRain 15 hours ago [-]
Yeah I'm dogsitting at my childhood home right now and it's missing the rural pubs on the dog route.
pelagicAustral 15 hours ago [-]
I was in Inverness a few weeks ago, seems like the tourist season is on, and it was fairly hard to find a pub other than downtown. The other interesting thing is that a lot of them don't seem to not go by the advertised opening times, which later on made total sense based on what an old man told me about the Highlands having their own time.
lostlogin 14 hours ago [-]
There were about as many golf courses as pubs when I went through there - but that was a while back.
bean469 10 hours ago [-]
Northern Ireland is not covered despite being part of the UK
purplemoonx 9 hours ago [-]
"Checking your browser..." See ya!
wodenokoto 13 hours ago [-]
I can't find a single pub using this page, let alone the nearest to me.
spidermonkey23 10 hours ago [-]
seems like Edinburgh beats Glasgow for the no 5 spot,I guess they have the Fringe to thank
Bar staff don't universally view half pint orders with respect.
I think the data from FHRS is more comprehensive than on OSM as it covers bars, clubs etc. If you have an alcohol license you appear in the FHRS data
I know there have been some access issues today, I think it is down to Cloudflare changing its bot protection.
The app is to compare pub density in your area, it doesn't have a search facility - there are loads of alternatives to search for a pub.
Technically, this is only the pub density in Great Britain - the UK is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", and Northern Ireland is not covered, so...
I see Leopoldsburg had a large military camp nearby. Same story?
> Pub data is sourced from the Food Hygiene Rating Service (FHRS) via GetTheData Open Pubs
https://www.getthedata.com/open-pubs
So nice interface and all but some data curation will be needed - perhaps on a crowd sourced basis? Click and add comment &c.
The project would have had to cover its costs, so the idea went to the great backlog in the sky.